TOWN OF SARATOGA

PLANNING BOARD DRAFT MINUTES

 

July 25, 2018

 

Chairman Ian Murray called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.

 

Planning Clerk Linda McCabe called the roll: Chairman Ian Murray – present, Laurie

Griffen – present, Patrick Hanehan – absent, Robert McConnell – present, Joseph

Lewandowski – present, Brandon Myers – present, George Olsen - present,

Alternate Christopher Koval - absent.

 

Also attending: Doug Post, Garry Robinson, Frank Owens, Louis & Alicia Farone.  (Sign-in sheet is on file in the Clerk's office)

 

A motion was made by Laurie Griffen, seconded by Robert McConnell, to accept the meeting minutes of June 20, 2018.   Chairman Ian Murray – aye, Laurie Griffen – aye, Patrick Hanehan – absent, Joseph Lewandowski – aye, Robert McConnell – aye, Brandon Myers – aye, George Olsen - aye, Alternate Christopher Koval - absent .

Carried  6 - 0

Approved

 

Public Hearing for Minor Subdivision

 

Cheryl Norris #18-06                                    Owner:  Helen Wells-Hoffman

1019 Rt. 4 S.                                                                  1017 Rt. 4 S

Schuylerville, NY 12871                                              Schuylerville, NY 12871

S/B/L 170.-1-45 Rural

Location:  1017 Rt. 4S

 

Applicant seeks to subdivide a 2 acre lot with existing home from the 35.12+/- acre parcel with an existing home.  There will be no changes to the property aside from the boundary lines as both houses are existing. 

 

Postponed due to illness.

 

 

Sketch Plan Conference for Minor Subdivision

 

Doug & Carol Post #18-07

1260 Rt. 9P

Saratoga Springs, NY 12866

S/B/L 193.14-1-13.2  Lake Residential

 

Applicants seek to subdivide a 2 acre parcel from their in order to construct a new house.

 

Applicant Doug Post appeared before the Board.

 

Chairman Ian Murray asked the Applicant to show him, on the map, where he plans to build a house and also review the history of the property.

 

The Applicant showed him where he'd like to build and said he subdivided the property in 2012/2013 and he now would like to subdivide further.

 

After a discussion with the Applicant and the Board, Chairman Ian Murray stated technically with the lot size he has, he possibly could do it.  Applicant has already inquired with NYS DEC and they kind of said okay.   Providing he can make everything required work on the lot, then it could work.  Chairman Ian Murray stated the Applicant will need a work order/permit from NYS DOT to bore under the road and connect to county sewer for hook up, as well as driveway approval and work permit.  He then stated the Board needs topo map, engineered drawings showing house layout, driveway, parking, location of well and sanitary, finished layout of the first floor of the house related to topo, to show it will work. 

Returning

 

Special Use Permit

 

Frank Owens #18-04                                                            Representative:  Garry Robinson

62 Louden Rd.

Saratoga Springs, NY 12866

S/B/L 157.-1-29 Rural Residential

Location:  NYS Rt. 29, west of Saratoga Apple

 

Returning Applicant seeks a special use permit to open a restaurant concession business at 1167 Rt. 29.  The 1.12 acre parcel has 413 feet of road frontage.

 

Garry Robinson appeared on behalf of the Applicant.  He stated they received a letter from the Department of Army and asked if there was anything else the Board needed.

 

Chairman Ian Murray replied yes, potable water sign-off from NYS DOH, sanitary sign-off from NYS DOH, directional arrows on the blacktop for ingress/egrees.  He added it shows on the drawing the blacktop width at 40' wide; the minimum depth needs to be 40' as well.  He then questioned what Chad Corbet, of NYS DOT, thought.

 

Garry Robinson replied that the Applicant needs to get a road/work permit.

 

Chairman Ian Murray questioned if he's going to get a sign-off letter or is Chad satisfied with the Applicant only obtaining a work permit.

 

Garry Robinson replied he just needs to get a work permit.

 

Chairman Ian Murray stated if Chad is fine with that, so is the Board.  He then stated with the plant schedule, they had acer rubrum to be planted but he'd like sugar maples planted instead as it's not wet enough there for the rubrums.  He also wants them to change from the yucca plants to spiraeas instead, as they are simpler and easier.

 

Garry Robinson responded they will do that.

 

Laurie Griffen questioned lighting.

 

Chairman Ian Murray showed her the lighting plan, foot candles and down lights.

 

Garry Robinson stated they had a lighting company do the layout for them and they will be using LED lights.

 

Chairman Ian Murray stated they have a list of conditions for approval, some need answers.  He questioned what the hours of operation will be.

 

After a brief discussion with the Applicant and the Board, Garry Robinson replied 6 a.m. - 9 p.m.

 

Chairman Ian Murray questioned the seasons of business.  After a brief discussion with the Applicant, Garry Robinson responded all year.

 

Chairman Ian Murray then stated they need sign off from NYS DOH on potable water and sanitary, only the concession carts and picnic tables can be stored inside, nothing else and there is to be no outside storage of any kind, as the trash dumpster is in an enclosure.  There is to be no sub-leasing of the site and no events.  No outside entertainment and the site is to be limited to restaurant concessions per the permit.  This will be a one year renewable permit.

 

Garry Robinson questioned if they can hold chicken barbeques and/or pig roasts. 

 

Chairman Ian Murray stated they are part of normal restaurant business, so yes.

 

Laurie Griffen stated the one year renewable is normal course of business with the permits.  They can have music inside but no music/concerts outside.

 

Robert McConnell said there's to be no flashing lights on the signs and no backlit signs.

 

Chairman Ian Murray questioned when he plans to open.

 

Garry Robinson responded next spring. 

 

Chairman Ian Murray stated be sure that fill is in place for sanitary system and perc test is done.

 

Applicant Frank Owens stated he'll probably open a year from next April.

 

Chairman Ian Murray asked if there were any further questions or comments of the Board; there were none.

 

A motion was made by Laurie Griffen, seconded by Robert McConnell, to approve the one year renewable permit with the following conditions: 

1.  Hours of Operation - 6 a.m. - 9 p.m.

2.  Season of Operation - all year

3.  NYS DOH Sanitary Approval & Sign-off and NYS DOH Potable Water Approval &           

     Sign-off

4.  NYS DOT Approval & Sign-off (if okay with road permit, he's fine with that)

5.  No Storage Inside Structure On or Off Season, aside from the two concession carts,

     picnic tables & trash bins.

6.  No Storage Outside

7.  No Sub-Leasing of Site/No Space for Events

8.  No Outside Entertainment - IE: Bands

9.  Site Limited to Restaurant Concessions as per approved Special Use Permit.

10.  This is a One Year (1) Renewable Permit       

Chairman Ian Murray – aye, Laurie Griffen – aye, Patrick Hanehan – absent, Joseph Lewandowski – aye, Robert McConnell – aye, Brandon Myers – aye, George Olsen - aye, Alternate Christopher Koval - absent .

Carried  6 - 0

Approved with Conditions

 

Old Business: Robert McConnell questioned if they were doing a walk-through for the wedding venue and Chairman Ian Murray replied there has been no response.

 

New Business: None

 

A motion was made by Chairman Ian Murray, seconded by Laurie Griffen, to adjourn the

meeting at 8:11 p.m.  Chairman Ian Murray – aye, Laurie Griffen – aye, Patrick Hanehan – absent, Joseph Lewandowski – aye, Robert McConnell – aye, Brandon Myers – aye, George Olsen - aye, Alternate Christopher Koval - absent .

Carried  6 - 0

Meeting Adjourned

 

 

The next regular meeting will be held Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 7:30 PM.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Linda A. McCabe

Planning Clerk